Pandemic Logic: Bad at Math Edition

"For Sweden" (rallybeetle) 07/14/2020 at 09:37 • Filed to: Electric Bicycles, Electric Bike, Electric Bikes, Electric Bicycle, Electric Vehicles, Two Wheels Bad, Two Wheels Good

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I should buy an electric bicycle.

Why?

It would work for my commute, and I could use the money I save not buying fuel for Volvo parts.

A bus also works for your commute, and the bike costs the same as several years of bus fares.

Håll käften.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > For Sweden 07/14/2020 at 09:48

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Here is one that costs as much as your Volvo.

https://www.specialized.com/us/en/turbo-creo-sl-expert/p/170238?color=274020-170238&searchText=98120-3001

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > For Sweden 07/14/2020 at 09:49

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I could use the money I save not buying fuel for Volvo parts.

This is exactly the kind of using your power for evil I endorse.

For Sweden > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 07/14/2020 at 09:50

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That’s like three times the price of my 19-year-old S80

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > For Sweden 07/14/2020 at 09:53

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Buses are for poors.

Don’t take the bus.

For Sweden > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 07/14/2020 at 09:53

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Does being ugly count as being poor?

This is what we'll show whenever you publish anything on Kinja: > For Sweden 07/14/2020 at 10:00

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I hope you get something more better than the yamaha mid drive. Weaksausage.

For Sweden > This is what we'll show whenever you publish anything on Kinja: 07/14/2020 at 10:02

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What do you recommend, and is it cheaper or more expensive than a Zero S?

hillrat > For Sweden 07/14/2020 at 10:02

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After almost never riding the bus the first 20 years of living in DC, I started taking the bus regularly a few years ago and find it to be a nice supplement to trains, driving, walking, and bike shares. It’s cheap, it goes everywhere and it runs all night on major thoroughfares.

With that said, it will be a VERY long time before I get on a bus again. Probably not until there’s a vaccine or some active measure you can take to prevent infection. 

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > For Sweden 07/14/2020 at 10:03

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As long as you’re wearing a mask it doesn’t!

Ssfancyfresh > For Sweden 07/14/2020 at 10:04

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I used the same math to buy a motorcycle when gas was creeping past $4 per gallon.

ThInK oF ThE SAviNg S !!

DipodomysDeserti > For Sweden 07/14/2020 at 10:07

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Counterpoint:

You probably won’t get covid on the bike.

Sampsonite24-Earth's Least Likeliest Hero > For Sweden 07/14/2020 at 10:10

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Theyre also impossible to find due to the Rona. I know my local trek store says their ebikes are backordered a few months out

CalzoneGolem > For Sweden 07/14/2020 at 10:13

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Riding a bike exposure to other people < riding a bus exposure to other people

So that’s a win for the bike even pre-pandemic

TheRealBicycleBuck > For Sweden 07/14/2020 at 10:14

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I think the equation is incomplete. You didn’t factor in the risk of catching COVID and the lowered health costs for getting *some* exercise by sitting on a bicycle as it propels you down the street.

I had a really, really long commute for a few years. It was 80 miles one-way. I thought I could save some money by buying a car that was more fuel efficient than my truck. My mom, the accountant, encouraged me to set up a spreadsheet to figure out just how much I would save. I realized that it would take years before I would see any savings mostly because the truck was already paid off . I kept driving the truck.

Thomas Donohue > For Sweden 07/14/2020 at 10:14

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Buy a $600 Chinese Ebay electric bike, and two three cans of gray Plasti-Dip.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > For Sweden 07/14/2020 at 10:15

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Buy a normal bike and get some actual physical benefit

Alternate view, at the end of those several years, you would still own the bike but wouldn’t own the bus

For Sweden > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 07/14/2020 at 10:18

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I would like to arrive at work without smelling worse than my lunch.

CalzoneGolem > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 07/14/2020 at 10:19

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9 grand and it doesn’t even come with pedals?

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > For Sweden 07/14/2020 at 10:27

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So it's only $3 then? 

For Sweden > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) 07/14/2020 at 10:28

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oof

wkiernan > For Sweden 07/14/2020 at 10:38

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That’s e asy enough, just bring especially malodorous lunches. Maybe something with Camembert and sardines. To drink, I have a bottle of Scotch whiskey that smells alarmingly similar to paint thinner, or alternatively there’s tequila.

nerd_racing > For Sweden 07/14/2020 at 10:42

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Time to start the Durian fruit diet.  

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > For Sweden 07/14/2020 at 10:43

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Keeps people away from you. It’s a feature, not a bug.

nerd_racing > For Sweden 07/14/2020 at 10:43

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Rattan Makes a nice folding E bike with 100 miles of range.  Starts at $700 USD. but most stock is priced around $1300 USD. 

shop-teacher > For Sweden 07/14/2020 at 10:48

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Yeah, but then you'd have to be on a bus.

This is what we'll show whenever you publish anything on Kinja: > For Sweden 07/14/2020 at 10:56

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Depends on whether you’re willing to diy or not. If you are you’ll likely end up with a better bike than the big names and for a whole lot less coin.

I’d start by sourcing a used full suspension mtb from a quality brand. Then decide if you want to go hub or mid drive (hubs are easier to build and live with, usually silent, less drivetrain wear. Mids are better for steep climbing but are noisier and cause accellerated drivetrain wear.) Pick your poison and get a kit that includes everything but the bike and battery. For that buy quality, avoid the ebay/amazon/aliexpress specials. (A potted Luna Shark Pack might be a good choice there). Don't forget to get a charger as well.

Grin Tech are great to deal with:

https://www.ebikes.ca

Luna Cycle is less great to deal with, but a decent option:

https://lunacycle.com

Literally anything you could ever want to know can be found here:

https://endless-sphere.com/forums

If you go mid I’d probably lean towards the BBS HD, especially for a first timer. I’d personally go for a CYC X1 Pro if going that route, but it’s an exercise in overkill. I have a bigly wigly hub on mine and love it fwiw.

If you don’t want to diy and don’t want to spend Specialized money people seem to largely like Rad Power bikes. They’re china-specials but are vetted by Rad so you’ll likely have better luck than the crap shoot that is craigslist/amazon/aliexpress turnkey bikes.

Do it! It’s fun!

This is what we'll show whenever you publish anything on Kinja: > nerd_racing 07/14/2020 at 11:04

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Fair warning. Every single retailer lies about range. Whatever they say, cut it in half, and be happy if you actually  that number.

atfsgeoff > For Sweden 07/14/2020 at 11:39

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Ride a human powered bike to work , and b ring a towel and change of clothes. Should be doable as long as the trip is 10 miles or less 

BaconSandwich is tasty. > This is what we'll show whenever you publish anything on Kinja: 07/14/2020 at 11:56

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This make me want to build an e-bike.

Even crazier idea: build my own recumbent e-bike.  For reasons.

This is what we'll show whenever you publish anything on Kinja: > BaconSandwich is tasty. 07/14/2020 at 12:16

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A electric tadpole trike is on my to do list. I’d love to build an electric velomobile one of these days. The donor bike prices are bananas though.

I've come close to picking up a Sun Cycle or a Bike-E before, but never pulled the trigger. All considered if riding in traffic is the plan a semi-recumbent might be the best bet. Better aero than upright, but not so low to the ground as to be completely invisible to motorists.

wafflesnfalafel > For Sweden 07/14/2020 at 12:28

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W e have a bunch of those things out here, even more since the pandemic hit. I agree, logically they don’t make a lot of sense, but I get the feeling folks just like to play with them, ride around anywhere they want to go on an electric motorbike ‘cause it’s fun. We were out walking a few weeks ago and got passed by a guy one one of the fat tired ones - he had to be pushing 80 - and he was having a great time.

Nom De Plume > For Sweden 07/14/2020 at 12:49

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You also need to account for inflation on S80 being much larger.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > CalzoneGolem 07/14/2020 at 12:58

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https://www.specialized.com/us/en/s-works-turbo-levo-sl/p/154903?color=263640-154903&searchText=96820-0002

B ut wait this one is more!

CalzoneGolem > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 07/14/2020 at 13:26

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Oof that looks fun though.

nerd_racing > This is what we'll show whenever you publish anything on Kinja: 07/14/2020 at 13:32

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That still works for me.  I have an 18 mile commute.  There’s only about 1/4 of it where I’d need the assist.  

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > CalzoneGolem 07/14/2020 at 13:36

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Belie ve it or not but they are selling out eBikes this year. People are just dropping $6k on an ebike like it’s not a big deal. 

CalzoneGolem > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 07/14/2020 at 13:40

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I believe it. B ikes in general are difficult to attain.

This is what we'll show whenever you publish anything on Kinja: > nerd_racing 07/15/2020 at 01:10

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Personally I’d not buy a folder unless I absolutely needed one. Especially an electric one. For a number of reasons. That hinge tends to become a weak spot, they usually have small wheels which aren’t great at any real speed, concessions are often made in the name of portability which effect r idability, many are packed with proprietary parts... Though I haven't looked at the one you mentioned specifically.